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PINK NOISE HULL BANDS#1 HULL BANDS#2 (This page) The Von Trapps F.U.B.B. Looking for Adam Sheep The Company/Mighty Strike The Penny Whistler The Brontes Savannah St. Stompers Luca Brazzi etc Secret of Life WKDN Guy Gibson Burn the Index Girlfriends US Megachicks Tough Guys... Bible Brothers Teethmarks Pressure Group Wail Nation Rock Ripley... New Dooleys Black September States of Unrest The Mandelbrot Set England Under Snow Flood of Lies Quel Dommage Scared to Dance Three Mile Island The Hitchcocks Adam's Eaten Eve Punctured Tough Guy The Adelphi Club |
The Von Trapps Chris, Dave, Jeff and Darren (was it Darren? I'm pretty sure it was). Despite the fact that Chris was a great frontman (100 ft tall, NHS glasses, Morrissey lookalike, acted like like he was possessed on stage) he couldn't hold a tune. That didn't matter. He was fantastic. We once played a gig with them in some out of the way church hall in a village near Milton Keynes (we should have seen the writing on the wall) and all the local youth came dressed in their best post nuclear holocaust look, and hung around as if they were at some significant event. They weren't, of course. Nevertheless, they were all open-mouthed when the Von Trapps came on, and mild-mannered Chris Hudson turned into his alter-ego:- Madman singer let loose on serious drugs. Although they used to do a stunning version of Looking for Lewis and Clark (in which Chris would play a two-note harmonica solo for ages) here instead is an extract of their song `Give us a Go'. The Deputy Prime Minister's son is playing bass on this, for fuck's sake. Click here. Whilst writing this I've remembered that Chris, Jeff, Nick Langley and I were going to form another band after the Von Trapps split up. We rehearsed a couple of times, and for some reason that now thankfully escapes me, were going to do a version of Haircut 100's soppy pile of shit, Love plus One. Christ. F.U.B.B. The name apparently stood for Fucked Up Beyond Belief. I only saw them play once. It was at a Mike and Eddie night. They did a Sex Pistol's cover version-I forget which one-and played an encore at the end with the least encouragement I've ever seen. Here they are playing at the Tower in 1986: Girl. Doncha just wonder who that special girl is? Looking For Adam In the height of urbane wittiness, we used to call them Looking for Adam Clayton. Errr... this is because we thought they sounded like U2. My, how we laughed. They were going to be big, were our rivals for a while, then we split up, and they didn't become big. This track was on the 'Now that's what we call Hull' cassette released by the Hull Hell & Happiness and Where? fanzines. It is called Atlantic Breeze, and is a bit like U2 covering the Sugarcubes' Birthday. In my view. Sheep I feel a bit bad about this, given that two of them emailed me...but I can't remember much about Sheep. They used to play regularly at The Adelphi, Welly, and The Trades and Labour club like we did. They never made it either. The Company/Mighty Strike etc Cheeky-faced Ian Beharrell played down-the-line soul music when the rest of us wanted to be all eighties, gothic and modern (i.e. shit). He was right and we were wrong. See for yourself with this video footage from the Adelphi in 1987: Check out this great slice of Wham!-dom: Family Biz has struggled manfully on in the music business when most of the rest of us just gave up. He popped up fronting a coca-cola/football band and is now signed up and everything: Biz. The Bloke who used to play the Penny Whistle at The Adelphi Somebody called Sid emailed me to say that the guy's name was Johnny Hurll (Earl?). I didn't know that. All I knew was that he was spectacularly inept at his instrument, something which made his performances exciting and enthralling. The Brontes Driffield band. I thought they were pretty good. Guitarist Jasper was always on about how they were about to be signed up. They weren't. Here's a track they did for the Hull, Hell and Happiness cassette: Crime Savannah Street Stompers They played trumpets and could possibly even read music. So I didn't really pay attention. Andrew Meadowcroft was in them and also played keyboards on The Mighty Strike track above. Luca Brazzi/The Gardeners/Dead Penguins University band who sang a useless and patronising song about how all the buses went to Orchard Park. Secret of Life
i) They weren't crap ii) Their CD came out in 1995 and so doesn't qualify as "1980's"
Here is a bit of Get By.
What Katy Did Next This was Paul Moller's band. My recollection is that they put on a rather challenging show and that the music was supplemented by backing tapes played by (multi-instrumentalist-both hands!) Pud. When I was a student at Hull University in the mid 1980's Paul and Pud impressed, amused and slightly scared me and my friends with their slow-motion-dancing-in-big-baggy-suits to James Brown tracks at Welly Club discos. Other members of the band included Trevor (ex-Nyam Nyam) and Nicky Hogg (Matthew's brother). Such is Hull's small musical world. Paul is now being creative in Scotland and Pud is some kind of computer expert. All that you need to know about what they're up to now and what they did way back when can be found here. It's got links to some weird and fantastic stuff. Guy Gibson Guy was, with hindsight, Hull's answer to the Manic Street Preachers before they were famous. His piece de resistance was a song called "Glorious"; a rousing call to arms. When Sharon and I lived in a flat in Ryde Street Guy was friendly with Sarah and Heidi in the flat downstairs. We were on several occasions woken by Guy and his chorus singing this opus in the early hours half-pissed after a night out at a club. I last saw Guy when he was working at an off licence in the Walker Street area in the early 1990's. I believe he is now in the Jam cover band All Mod Cons Kingmaker Proper band with a contract who got a recording contract and had hit records. My brother played drums for Leicester band Blab Happy who supported Kingmaker on a UK tour. I saw them both play at the Riverside in Newcastle, and thought that Blab Happy were the better band, although that was probably just filial loyalty and local jealousy coming into play. They did well, then not so well, and then split up. Plus ca change. Unofficial Kingmaker site here. Burn the Index
Sharon tells me that Steve Cobby of Pork, Fila Brasilia, and Ashley&Jackson fame was in Burn the Index. The Girlfriends Heidi Kruger (guitar), Sara Burton (bass) and Clare Henning (drums). Sara used to live in the flat below Sharon and I. She used to play Sinead O'Connor's first album a lot, and at one time went out with the now shaven-headed multi-pierced Steve Left. I seem to recall that the band wasn't very good. Various members of this band were often seen (along with many others) cramming the stage at the arse-end of Coyote Trap/Thieves and Murderers/Fabulous Boots gigs singing "backing" vocals. Heidi had been in Thin Ice prior to The Girlfriends. Here they are keeping the spirit of punk alive by not being very competent on their instruments, which is not necessarily a criticism in my book: You've given up hope
US Megachicks I got an email from Paul wondering why I hadn't put his band on this website. He said he had been responsible for "debagging" me once in the doorway of the Adelphi. Sorry Paul, must have been someone else. Nick Langley emailed me to remind me that one of their songs was all about a spaceship hurtling to earth at "100 miles per hour". This is, I'm sure you'll agree a remarkably slow speed for a spaceship to travel, and given that acceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s2 (and that the terminal velocity of a human being is approximately 120mph), it would seem that this particular spaceship was positively ambling earthward. Tough Guys Don't Dance TGDD were a pretty professional bunch as I recall. They even set themselves as a local booking agent, and we played a number of gigs with them including one at the Mean Fiddler, Harlesden in 1987. Eight years later I began training as a solicitor with Alexander & Partners in an office overlooking the venue ( I appreciate that this is not especially relevant or of any interest to you, but it's my website). Did TGDD do a sort of Sade thing? Is that wrong? Perhaps they'll let me know. Anyway I can't remember much about them except that their percussionist Kofi was a bit of a dynamo. Here they are:- The Bible Brothers The Bible Brothers were a synth band that included Danny Shackleton on keyboards. The first time I saw them was upstairs at The Welly Club when they played with a Sheffield package consisting of Dig Vs Drill, Mr Morality, and Pulp. The whole shebang was compered by Henry Normal. Virtually the entire audience consisted of the other bands. I thought Pulp were good, Dig Vs Drill were best (shows what I know) and bought a tape consisting of two songs from each band (not including The Bible Brothers who, incidentally, I thought were crap). Here's a bit of them playing at the Tower in 1986: Jim Jim. Teethmarks on the Bathroom Door
Formed in 82, or maybe 83 by guitarist
"Red" Kev Smith, with the clarion call
"Lets practice for six weeks and do a gig at the
Adelphi, nomatter how bad we are". The first
practice led to three pretty decent songs and we too were
hooked. Superstardom could only be a matter of
waiting...and waiting.. Hmm.. What do YOU say, Kevin? Er John as you get older your memory
plays tricks on yer but I think the following is : THE
DEFINITIVE HISTORY OF TEETHMARKS ON THE BATHROOM DOOR
After I finished University in 1982, my first band (LAST
TABOO) broke up without playing a gig.I put together
TEETHMARKS with John on vocals and Mike Hemblade on bass
(who had made a tape with a bedroom band (EVERYWHERE
CHAINSAW) that I had heard.Pretty soon we brought on
board a drummer Chris Jones.I remember that with Mike and
I writing the songs (with some help from John)we
developed a set pretty quickly, though it took some time
to tighten thesound, which I can only describe as thrash
punk. We used to rehearse at ahouse (commune) on The
Boulevard where I lived at the time.With this line up we
headlined at The Wellington Club and also played The
Tower as John has said though it was in June 1984 not
1985 and with Chris on drums not Jim. The Tower gig was
really good and I think we just about broke even on it. I
even played in the support band that night (the
tremendous RAGING SIFF). The closest we came to stardom
was to turn down a gig at Hull University supporting Phil
Lynott ! Shortly after this, Chris left to be replaced by
the talented Jim Delacey on Drums. With this line up we
played the Trades and Labour Club before John (Yawn..) Anything to add John?.. Er, you forget the inital Teethmarks practices with Wayne Oldfield on Bass and a kid who's name I cant remember on a great big drum kit in the University Bandspace. Two practices or so with them we musta had? Chris was playing with another band at the time, LES YEUX. Only after their breakup was he able to join us. I remember we went for a while just the three of us without any drums. The Pressure Group Mentioned above, they were a university band in Joy Division/New Order type mode. Guitarist had "You are Scum" written on his strap. Kev Wade (rhythm guitar) emailed me to say that they had had a 4-track ep on Poltroon Records entitled "Only God is Perfect". I either did not know this or had simply forgotten it. In 2006 I saw this piece of vinyl for sale on Ebay and bid on it. It finally sold for something like £110. Not to me I hasten to add. They also did exchange gigs with Pulp, whereby Pulp headlined at The Adelphi with The Pressure Group supporting, and Pulp supported them in a return gig in Sheffield. Rock Ripley & his 15 Cows I'd never heard of this band, but Andy Phelan emailed me to say that they had played in 1985. He also kindly sent me a tape from the 1986 gig at The Tower at which lots of local bands played (from which I've borrowed freely). At the end of this tape he helpfully included a live recording of his band doing a cover (why?) of The Exploited's "Dead Cities". Thankfully the recording is of such poor quality that I decided not to put on here, but it does prove they existed. Wail Nation Matt Smith reminded me of his old band which I had until then recalled only as 'Alison Owen's Band'. I first saw them in about 1989 when they won the University Battle of the Bands competition. Alison had a fantastic voice, and they did a great version of Union City Blue. He says that the band were "admittedly far too commercial" for some tastes but they were tight and Alison was (and probably still is) an excellent singer. Sharon Zamyatin and the New Dooleys Another university band. Ex members Bruce Lawson and Jim Wharmby both emailed me with useful details about their old band. The best thing about them (as far as I was concerned) was their paean to Zelda Sladen, a politics undergraduate and prominent Socialist Worker Student Society member who once hissed "Fascist" at me because my DM's had white laces in. If you're reading this, Ms Sladen; fuck off. Here are the lyrics:- 'Rodriguo The Llama': I'm in love with a trotsky maiden, and her name is Zelda Sladen, a public school communist, but she don't love me, well, what a SWSS/ swizz [geddit?], marry me Zelda, or I'll die. Let's organise and occupy! Back in the USSR - I'd like to get into your bra. Black September Pouting Goth-Lite band fronted by local Lizard King Ian Hunter. I wasn't a big fan, but they had a sizeable following and could clearly play their instruments. This song is called I-Spy. States of Unrest Hull's very own agit-prop group with banners and flags and everything. They were, and remain, angry about stuff in general, and very angry about US imperialism. This was of course the time of Ronald Ray-Gun and Bush-pere, so there was plenty to be cross about. And nothing has changed, of course. Led by Mick Wilkinson (who kindly loaned me his copies of 'Now that's what we call Hull' and 'Tales from the Riverbank' from which I've pinched some of the audio clips featured here) they had a touch of The Fall about them. See for yourself on New World Order, recorded (according to guitarist Chris Malins) in a Doncaster studio (£48 for 50 tapes) Mick sent me the photo of the band shown below. He says that they underwent a number of personnel changes (20+ in 4 years), and is therefore a bit unsure of the names. Mick is singing, Kay on drums, Simon Roberts is on bass, Chris Malins on guitar, and Lee-Ann is on his left playing guitar. She appeared at The Adelphi in about 1985 from Newcastle as a committed Housemartins fan. And just stayed. Mick tells me that the band once toured 6 northern cities on an Educate The Masses tour, and lost £300.00 playing in front of about 40 punters in total. Commitment. He also recorded a track as The Soledad Brothers which was featured on a (NME Indie) chart-topping compilation entitled We Don't Want Your Fucking War. He says it was shit. But it was FAME, Mick, FAME!!!
I assumed that SoU had gone their separate ways but I got an email from William Ward in November 2007 (which I found weeks later in my Junk Email folder) politely pointing out that the past tense that I had used was not appropriate in their case and they were still railing away. Good on 'em, I say. Their internet existence can be found
here or
here
The Mandelbrot Set They came along as my band fragmented. Maybe they thought they had to boot us out of the way as local opposition. No chance. We were going nowhere fast. They got big draws at The Adelphi as I recall. Bit of a nerdy name, though. The following track was on the Tales From The Riverbank cassette. JB, their bassist, emailed me to say it was recorded at the Planet Wilson studio on the Avenues-but as he can't even recall the name of the singer ('It was a long time ago') I'm not sure of the value of his reminiscences. He also pointed out that the link to the clip wasn't working (which I have now rectified), but since he is the only person to mention this to me ever, it suggests that it isn't one of the more sought after recordings on the world wide web. Anyway, I've only put the first verse and-a-half on (which is great with a neat guitar line) but faded it out before the chorus because it is so lame. What were you thinking of, lads? Captain Chaos. Dave Gibbons, one time manager and eventual bassist with the band sent me this potted history for your delectation:- A potted history of the 'brot set: Formed in 1990 - Richard Gilbert (Vocal), Dave Gardiner (Bass), Nick Wilson (Guitar), Sean Willerton (Guitar), Jason "Shep" Shepley (Drums). Recorded a single, but before it came out, temporarily changed name to The Chameleon Circuit in order to enter Soundtrack, which they failed to win, by quite a lot. This, however, is the point at which I come in as I was then on a six-month sabbatical from any noticeable form of income by running a short-lived record label called Pure Records from my partner Pev's rented house just down from the Adelphi, me having decided that being Assistant Manager at Andy's Records was a bad idea. I was deeply, horribly wrong. We passed on Headtime, who signed to Cherry Red and Tombstone Graffiti, who renamed themselves Kingmaker and didn't do half badly. We on the other hand, chose to sign the Mandelbrot Set, who quite rightly took the money and let us do all the work. If only we had known what the hell we were doing... The pinnacle for us was getting Gary Crowley to play the first (awful) single on the old-style Radio Five, then we landed them a support slot at Sunderland with the Mock Turtles and Birmingham Poly with (hmmm) Ghost Dance. No wonder, then, that Dave and Nick buggered off soon after, pausing only to record Captain Chaos, which was so dreadful that I can't ever remember it being played live. JB, I assume, is Julian Bangs, who briefly replaced Dave Gardiner in time to do a few demos and some gigs before deciding, too, that anything was better than this. When he cleared off, I dusted off my bass, let down my ponytail and switched from managing the band very badly to playing bass for them quite well, I hope. This was to be the 'Set's glory days, kind of... We suddenly got an injection of testosterone from somewhere and were actually quite good...part of the 'Where?' Magazine, Indigo Trashcan etc gang, but managing to fall out on a regular basis with Kingmaker, Looking For Adam and Joyce, not least at Kingmaker's Hull Poly gig... Highlights, I suppose, were supporting the Bunnymen at the Adelphi, headlining the New Year's Eve bash at the Adelphi, the first Six of the Best gig at the Tower (us, Sandcastles, Death By Milkfloat, Trashcan, someone else and Chris Warkup's band), and the legendary Double-decker bus trip to the Powerhaus in London. Supporting Kingmaker/Paris Angels at the Tower was a giggle, winding up the Angels (who had a reputation for having light fingers) by asking the audience to look after our gear, and then nicking their rider and amp-leads...all my doing, I'm afraid. The second single, I'm told, was #27 in some magazine's indie chart for a week, and that was it. By the time the single, "On Fire", came out we were losing interest though. Rich quit, so did Sean, Shep joined Hub and I formed Sunnyland with Mike from Mind Garden/Soda, Becka "Berri" Sleight and Nick Cammack, who is still active in London as a singer. Having gone through every drummer in Hull, even the legendary Grant Ardis, we gave up and I lost interest, finding it again in Reuben with Charles Huckvale (ex Janus Stark), Sean Willerton (again), and Simon (brother of John) Andrew. A band that was quite good but possibly a bit too clever and ultimately went nowhere, especially after I moved to Devon in '98. So there you go. Captain Chaos always was shite, but if anyone has a digital copy of Fat and Green, that captures the best of the Mandelbrot Set, when we were almost quite good. Thanks for that, Dave. We can be sure that this is (and forever will be) the world's most complete repository of information about The Mandelbrot Set. England Under Snow Tim Joseph was in this guitar-based duo. He was the Citizen Kane of Where? magazine that underpinned the early 90's Hull music scene, and put out local band compilations. Several people have emailed me to sing his praises. I'm a bit embarrassed (again-someone who actually paid attention should have done this site) to say I can't remember much about EUS (as I've decided to call them). I think they put real records out. Sorry. This is what the Guestbook is about; people who know put it up themselves thus shielding me from my own sorry ignorance. Flood of Lies I think I thought they were good, but I was young and impressionable. The Weaver. Quel Dommage Local trooper Tommo was in this seminal early 80's Hull band. I saw them play at The Trades and Labour Club when The Unity Club was putting on shows there. He's the man behind Cottingham punk label Xcentric Noise, The Tigers' footy anthem Going Up (they did), still plays in (or at least has something to do with) a band (Rinky Dink) and, as you can see if you follow the above link, he takes some stunning photos. He's sent me some excellent cds over the past couple of years including a great compilation of Quel Dommage stuff entitled "Fielding One Hell of a Team, Jim". With a line-up of Mike Farnill (bass/vocals), Dave Lofts (drums), Ian Muir (keyboards) and Tommo on guitar Quel Dommage lived from 1983 until 1986 when they shuffled off their collective mortal coil at The Adelphi. Here is Fear of Gods. You may just be able to catch some Joy Division references....
Scared to Dance I don't know much about Scared to Dance. But Sharon had a picture of them (wrongly credited as The Company in the Adelphi book) so here they are. John Clayton helpfully emailed me more than once in an attempt to get me to update this and other entries. The lead singer Terry Chapman is
now an actor and has appeared in soaps and stuff (appearing as Terence Mann).
Shanny kindly sent me the picture on the right. It shows Scared To
Dance in Little Switzerland. If you were a Hull band in the 80's you
had to be photographed in Little Swiss or you were nobody. There must have been some days when the smell of hairspray must have
been so overpowering near the Humber Bridge that visitors and shipping
traffic must have wondered what was going on. The sight of a number of
20-something young men looking mean and moody can only have increased
the general confusion. Three Mile Island Guitars, drums, 4/4, all pretty
well-done. I previously wrote that I couldn't remember much else about
them, but Sharon Stevenson helpfully emailed me to say that this was another
band featuring Guy Gibson with
Dave Gardner, Nick
Wilson and Daron Wilson. She
describes them as "a good live band with lots of energy from Guy". I've got a tape they made in
'92
which is ok. I'll get around to putting a track on here sometime. The Hitchcocks Now these lot were actually quite
accomplished. I remember playing a gig with them at the Adelphi and
thinking that they were going to make us look crap. Luckily for us they
thought so too, which made everything somehow a bit easier to deal with.
I don't particularly recall them blowing us off stage or anything. Andy,
their
drummer works at what used to be Gough & Davy's in town. Go and ask
him about his old band. I bet he'll be really pleased. Adam's Eaten Eve I saw AEE play a couple times as their
drummer, Russell Antoniades was our manager's, Steve Left, mate. Trouble
is, I can't really remember much about them. Did they look a bit like
Fields of the Nephilim? Obviously, if I'm wrong about that it's a bit of
an insult. So I take it back. Punctured Tough Guy
Gloom-laden Joy Division inspired goth-dom.
Added 80s-ness by using drum machine. I think they may have got into
some bother about their cassette, Warped Houses, which featured a
picture of a burned out old peoples home on the front. The tracks
Typhoid Mary and White Lulu (recorded at 51 Stepney Lane by Ingo) are
pretty good. Man has put up the tracks from Warped Houses on the net for you to
enjoy:- Here On re-listening to it I am reminded of the first Cocteau Twins' first
album. Mike Scott later joined Scared to Dance and then Hub, who
he described to me as Hull's answer to the Chili Peppers. A tape of
theirs suggests this is a not unfair assessment to make. Man and Mike Scott have been joined by Alan from
Spacemaid, James
from Salako, Gav from
Concrete Breaks
and Archie from (I think) d/con
amongst others to form the new Hull supergroup
The Sorry Loves. This new band is proof positive that none of us are ever too old to
give stardom another bash. The
Adelphi Unless you've been there
(at least a few times. With some of your mates. And had a
All the bands YOU like
played there when they were either nobodies, or almost
somebodies. You may be able to imagine the concern on
their faces when they rolled up to what is effectively an
extended terraced house in the middle of a residential
street. When it first started there was no proper PA or
stage lighting. Or floor covering. Or enough glasses. The La's, The
Housemartins, Pulp, Happy Mondays, The Stone Roses,
Oasis, The Farm,..oh..and loads more played here. The
La's were probably my favourite, but who could forget the
fantastic Bogshed, Ted Chippington,
Attila the
Stockbroker, or The Very Things. There were plenty of
shit bands as well (The Noseflutes, anyone?) but you have
to take the rough with the smooth. The Adelphi as we know it reached 20
years old in October 2004. A fantastic limited-edition book (including 2
cds) entitled One Man & His Bog detailing this rollercoaster ride is
available from The Adelphi. Buy it from the website above. And it's all down to this
man. The one and only Paul Jackson. A man who was at one
time content to keep the passenger door of his ash-strewn
car shut with nails and string. Wow. How many of us could
even say that we would ever think of using such materials
to maintain the security and integrity of our cars?. Not
many, I bet. Want More? Click here
for the Hull Daily Mail site with loads more information/photographs of
Hull bands throughout the ages. To see a great collection of Hull music cover art click
here here A further trip back down memory lane is available here if you would like to view some excellent Rock Against Racism posters from the early 80's (courtesy Richard Lees). An brilliant site about the bands which featured on the early 80's album Mrs Wilson's Children can be found here Coming Soon.....(as I can be arsed to do a
re-write, that is) Eddie
Twang Bluefish Closer
Than Comfort Deja Vu The Last
Crusade The
Mountbattens Jump the
Gun Moss
Cottage Oktoberfest |
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